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Vince Begin 3rd Feb 2015 02:12:59	WEFLY FSX Has had to change websites please re-signup if you havent allready done so
Michael Dorrington 29th Sep 2015 10:29:59	To be fair, your website contains harmful advertisements for profit. Once signed up, you will be bombarded with many different advertisements which take you to harmful websites and download unknown files. All because you want new members to pay $4.99 to remove these advertisements. Do you like flight simming or are you making a business out of it? Before you say its to keep your servers up and running, you have a good income from the GPS application your selling so theres no needs for this intrusive advertisement. Ive had a few people come to me to help them remove a ransom which has come from your website. We dont need this sort of thing in the community. http://thewebhserver.com/images/photo_fullscreen_577_56099d45930a7.jpg
Michael Dorrington 29th Sep 2015 10:30:55	*Ransom Virus
Andy Mooring 30th Sep 2015 19:12:55	Ouch
Andy Mooring 30th Sep 2015 19:15:20	Don't want to be obvious but it's taken you Michael 7 MONTHS to look and respond to the post. mm delayed reaction?
Michael Dorrington 30th Sep 2015 19:30:28	Its not directly related to the first post. I just didnt see the point in creating a new topic. Thanks
Vince Begin 1st Oct 2015 21:17:34	not sure what you have in mind behind this other than how michael d with easternhops is a scam i do not put viruses on my website because im not a scam artist like some people but i suggest you keep your nose out of other peoples bussiness because this did not concern you the advertisements are from google that do keep us running they dont have viruses second off the virus in this mans computer come from shopwit in a security program so i think you need to know what the hell you know what youre talking about before you start blurting vrap out
Vince Begin 1st Oct 2015 21:19:07	if some people only knew how big of a scam michael d is they would be shocked but i guess when you put yourself out there as another person from what you are it really shows.
Michael Dorrington 1st Oct 2015 22:13:18	Vince, 'Michael D is a scam'. Do you know me ? No you dont.
Michael Dorrington 1st Oct 2015 22:51:00	Vince, I was making a point to the community about what ive found. Nothing more. I find your response very childish, calling a VA which is unrelated to this topic a 'scam' then calling me a 'scam' when you dont really know who we are. Second of all, who said anything about a scam? I didnt... The Adverts are there and i know they are. But your response kind of misses the point. A simple reply telling your side would of been good, but proved to hard as you resulted to slandering me and another virtual airline.
Vince Begin 1st Oct 2015 23:49:54	im not slandering you i said what you are and i know some of your past thats why i called you a scam you coming on here and stuff about my site then i can relate back to to talk about the one you live at i dont slander about other communities unless im mentioned and in the wrong way think what you want but i didnt put a virus on my site i dont want one and my members dont so dont tell me whats there i know its not i have my site looked through everyday by site protection for these reasons if anyone else uploads anything so get off my back criticizing my site and ill get off yours !!
Bob Packard 2nd Oct 2015 06:20:12	Several points are at issue here. Why the delay in addressing this issue Michael? Why go public in the first instance instead of contacting Wefly's admin? You DO have an account with us, yet you saw fit to just rush into the public arena. Was this some idea of warning the flightsim public of the evil demons at Wefly? Anything else derogatory that you want to get off your chest? I do advise you to be VERY careful when wording these childish attacks, you do your own reputation no end of harm, by such behaviour.
Michael Dorrington 2nd Oct 2015 09:58:25	Hello, Firstly, I haven't delayed anything. Second of all, I think the public should know, why do I have to contact Wefly ? It shouldnt be there in the first place. Bob, no offence but i know you dont manage the website codes and you dont have a 'normal' account im guessing with Wefly, you need free-membership status to see the ads, so how would you know? Vince, Your responses are rushed and childish. Its slander, as I dont really know you, and you dont know me. If you know of any 'scams' then why not talk to me about them? Because there are non. To conclude, your responses are not to the point of the original post. They focus on slandering other people and other groups. Raising a valid point only leads to attack... These are the few 'amazing' things i found in the past. Which again is based around money... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/347749058/wefly-flight-simulation-community -- You wanted $50,000 to start your virtual community. You pulled the template off FSXBeyond Gamespy one time, and you forgot to change the html code for description, key-words.
Andy Mooring 2nd Oct 2015 11:29:51	Dave mate, could you please remove this thread, its starting to get out of hand. Cheers :o)
Vince Begin 2nd Oct 2015 15:30:03	First off I have not taken a template from anywhere the template was taken from another member that edited it and gave it to me to use another reason being we have not ever started a project and ask over $500 these are childish acts you have started you are the one that replied first to the topic you want to stir sh keep stirring but I suggest shut you mouth and worry about your own d* business no one ask you to hop in you English pri**
Vince Begin 2nd Oct 2015 15:30:34	Dave please romove this it is getting out of hand Thanks
Michael Dorrington 2nd Oct 2015 16:05:17	Wow...
Vince Begin 2nd Oct 2015 22:40:55	Another thing id like to say the gps application will not draw income forever we didnt make much off of it anyways bc i didnt advertise it so its not making as much as you think.
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 15:37:53	To be fair, Vince does have a history: http://fsxeu.com/blacklist/ I do hope he has changed his ways.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 16:37:53	im trouble huh i did have servers at the time when i had no community beacuse i was busy on the outer world that could of been used you abandoned me by not giving an answer and then banning me from teamspeak for no reason the content that i found was not copied it was true material and it was rephrased so it was not plagiarism keep talking lets see how many other untrue facts you know.
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 16:41:45	I am not the author of this information sir. You are arguing with the wrong person.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 16:49:37	i dont car if you are the author the information was fsopen information and data and i rephrased it so it was not copyright !
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 16:50:32	Your host took a different view.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 16:51:24	what host i am the host ive always hosted my sessions
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 16:54:20	Your website hosting service sir.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 16:56:41	took a different view on the rephrased content no your the way that took a different view had to be all up in my bussiness all the information was rephrased rewrote had nothing to do with your phrasing of the content didnt even sound the same you just wanted to stir the pot
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 16:59:11	I did witness this debacle as the main developer at FSXEU.com however, it was reported to your website hosting provider and they decided it was an infringement.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 17:00:04	it was not cant be infringement if the content wasnt the same
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 17:02:47	Once again, you are arguing with the wrong person. Your provider at the time took the decision.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 17:04:19	what is wrong with aruing with you ? tell me that and ill have a talk with the host why the decision was made couldnt of been the content if it was different
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 17:06:59	Perhaps, more to the point, is what you wish to achieve by arguing with me?
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 17:09:15	that i am right and you are wrong i am going to speak with my host an i will send you a copy of chat transcripts or post them whatever is reasonable. i never had a problem with you tim always thought you were typical flight sim guy now i begin to think different
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 17:14:04	Haha - what IS a typical 'flight sim guy' - I'm still wondering myself. I cannot admit I was wrong as it was a third party that made the decision - that being your hosting provider and the owner of FSXEU.com. To be fair Vince, this was over a year ago so it doesn't bother me all that much as it's not my problem since FSXEU.com closed in Jan 2015. I have irons in another fire now sir.
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 17:17:55	typical flight sim guy "hangout guy", "talking about things tha weve done", being cool about things. I still have nothing against you and i you feel that way since fsxeu closed fine. if thats the case lets start over and call this the past and again i have nothing against you and maybe youll feel the same way. and hope your new fire turns into a blaze
Tim Walters 3rd Oct 2015 17:25:03	As per my original post - I do hope you have changed your ways. These things can come back to bite you on the <inappropriate wording> and we all have to be mindful of what is posted in public forums, especially when defending your own community. I moved over to Steam late December 2014 and I am, indeed, blazing away with four concepts and three FSX servers on Steam Edition. http://www.maldair.com http://www.eo3va.com http://www.malitary.org http://www.eusart.org All the best sir!
Vince Begin 3rd Oct 2015 17:31:02	Thanks Tim well if there is anything in the future my website is there and my email is below i assure you there will be nothing else to be concerned about but if there is heres to below. http://www.weflyfsx.com vince@weflyfsx.com Sincerely, Vince - cheers
Bob Packard 4th Oct 2015 01:59:56	Michael.... WHY did you rush into public print before approaching us? ? I thought better of you than that. If you have any issues with a provider, or retailer of a goods or service, is your first reaction to leap into print or do you do what's normal, and approach the provider in the first instance? as regards my account type, that's MY business. Conclusions are obviously, to be jumped at, not approached carefully!!
Andy Mooring 4th Oct 2015 12:02:35	EEEENNNNNOOOOOUUUUUGGGHH
Vince Begin 4th Oct 2015 18:01:15	Who ask you Andy ?
Michael Dorrington 4th Oct 2015 21:31:53	I dont really have to justify myself, the nature of the problem i found is serious and required public attention. Im not willing to discuss this any further with you or Vince as Vince has been Aggressive by posting offensive language that no one wants to see. Thanks for your time.
Andy Mooring 4th Oct 2015 22:03:41	I'm sick of people using this forum as a battle ground when firing exchanges and as a former Manager and current member of FSOpen, it hurts me to see people NOT giving this website that Dave created for us, the upmost respect............words fail me :o(
Michael Dorrington 4th Oct 2015 22:38:40	Andy, I apologise for my part.
Vince Begin 5th Oct 2015 00:42:30	No andy it should be me that sorry since i was replying to the post so much giving disrespect to fsopen. Bc Michael doesnt know how to apoligize bc if he did the right thing in the first place we wouldnt be discussing it here it would be elsewhere he should of contacted someone in a email directly not on a forum. but thats ok that just shows you how michael cares no one nut hisself so it wont matter to him
Chris Pringle 6th Oct 2015 13:12:32	I know this is not on topic but Tim can you remove the post in you're blacklist about me. I was unaware of this until now and I do not want it being there. It is ridiculous and links to my facebook which is pretty damn creepy that either yourself or someone looked up. Thanks
Kembe Williams 6th Oct 2015 23:41:46	I'm gonna be off topic but Tim while going down blacklist i saw my name there i wasn't aware of this until now but i'm not in to all that anymore i don't use fsopen server anymore so if you could please take me name off he list i'm good not here to make any argument
Joe Dirt 9th Oct 2015 00:57:16	Yet another off topic comment.....Tim, Half the people on the blacklist are still on ours. Thanks for posting. It brought back tons of old unpleasant memories. What some people will do to become a legend in their own mind... or own time... anyway... something like that.
Tim Walters 11th Oct 2015 22:05:03	Sorry guys, I cannot remove these names as FSXEU stopped operations in Jan of this year and I do not have access to it. You may wish to contact Kenneth Brander, the site owner for removal. The contact details I have appear to be of of date. Joe: this is why it was created in the first place I believe! I have similar on MaldAir.
Robert Smith 13th Oct 2015 20:07:27	Robert aka Pizza ceo/EasternHops: Now its my turn to say something. after going and talking with Vince on his teamspeak. I got a clarification of what he had meant about above statement of EasternHops and that's now settled... now what I know for sure Micheal D has been my webmaster for along time and has spent endless hours doing web,design, and many other endeavors for us and that He and all of our Members of EasternHops have made easternhops as it is to today. Cheers to Micheal and all EasternHops Members.

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