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| Prepar3d Poll, Yes or No | |
Dave Wave   21st Nov 2013 21:03:29 | Just out of interest, with P3D coming out next week do you think you will upgrade or not.
Please respond with Yes, No, or Don't know as your first line of response. |
Robert Dunn  21st Nov 2013 21:59:42 | Yes, on the day of release.
I intend to experimentally multiplayer host a public P3Dv2 24/7 session for one month under a $10 developer's license. I will initially host this P3Dv2 session on my own, not associated with msFLIGHTS.net. I will purchase a $60 academic license for my separate client computer immediately also. I will continue to host FSX-FSOpen under msFLIGHTS.net name as per normal but under a new IP 70.180.222.57. I will continue to fly FSX client side additionally. If interest exists for a public P3Dv2 multi host after initial experimentation within our community and in the general flight simming world, I will purchase a second $60 academic license under which to host multiplayer training sessions for all aspects of flight. Respects, Bob... ROBERT DUNN 2 RSDunn2@msflights.net |
Joe Clifford  21st Nov 2013 22:11:51 | No,
I'm afraid to say. The amount of time that I am spending on Flight Simulator is slowing decreasing and other projects are becoming my priority. My current system only just about runs FSX and cant run any graphic intense aircraft such as those produced by PMDG. My PC will not be able to run P3D, and for the reasons mentioned about I can't quite justify buying a new PC. I look forward to seeing videos and screenshots though. Enjoy guys. Joe |
| Curley Campbell 21st Nov 2013 22:12:21 | No. |
Johnny Mckenzie  21st Nov 2013 22:26:46 | No. |
Gregor Michaj 21st Nov 2013 22:53:02 | YES |
| Dave Wave 21st Nov 2013 23:02:30 | So far
Yes 2 No 3 Don't know 0 Thanks, keep them coming. |
Grant Farmer   22nd Nov 2013 03:58:13 | No |
| Robert Dunn 22nd Nov 2013 06:54:16 | Would it more completely answer your question, Dave, if the community administrators could also gauge their group's sentiments on P3Dv2 here also? I might assume Dave is trying to assertain early indication of P3Dv2's popularity (prerelease) so as to determine how much of his time and resources in it's support might be warranted. I will bring up this popularity question during the pre-flight of the next cross community flight on 14 December to an expected large audience. Population of my own public P3Dv2 host at IP 71.231.12.143 can be sampled shortly after software release on Monday. Our own community's poll on this very subject is running about 2 to 1 for eventual purchase and that poll's progress can be monitored here:
http://msflights.net/forum/showthread.php?1247-Poll-Will-you-be-purchasing-Prepar3D-v2-0 Respects, Bob... ROBERT DUNN 2 RSDunn2@msflights.net |
| Dave Wave 22nd Nov 2013 08:50:32 | No thanks Robert, yes or no here is fine. |
| David Figge 22nd Nov 2013 11:17:16 | no - unless they purchase the other licence from MS. |
Clive Northrop  22nd Nov 2013 17:39:58 | YES!
Just hope all my hardware works or will be supported in the near future. |
| Dave Wave 22nd Nov 2013 17:45:46 | So far
3 Yes 5 No. Everyone seems to have made their mind up before its released lol. |
| David Bartlam 22nd Nov 2013 18:04:44 | No
The reason for this is because the developers will take a while to catch up. I have a big member base of FSX members and so the vote would go to them, I personally think they will all stay with FSX. If p3D catches on and does better than that Flight did, the developers support it etc, I'll consider it. But for now, I'll be sticking with FSX hosting for as long as you support it :) |
| Curley Campbell 22nd Nov 2013 23:20:05 | (Dave: please delete this post if it is too far off topic)
I know this is NOT inline with what Dave is trying to get a handle on... AND I am Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. But I feel it needs to be said (again.) Please read their EULA and Price Table. Personally, I made up my mind when I first tested it. True, the FPS and graphics are indeed better (as in former Aces Team members improving on the work Microsoft decided not to pursue) as compared to the older FSX that most of us currently use. I totally agree with what Prepar3D is offering as a "learning tool" and it IS an excellent product. That is what Lockheed Martin does.. and they do it well. The licensing agreement DOES NOT allow us to use Preparer3D in the same manner as FSX. IF, I wanted to host in the same manner in FSX... I simply click in the hosting MP LAN connection "Mission" instead of "Free Flight". There are already some groups doing such. For those thinking it is a replacement for FSX, you are greatly mistaken. It.. IS .. FSX (mission section) with a license to modify the internal environment (Microsoft ESD) and distribute to Military, Professional, and Academia users. Running Prepar3D... in the same manner as we would run FSX.. is against their licensing and clearly noted on their site and pricing structure. As they clearly state they have no intention to enter the "personal/consumer entertainment field. They clearly state in their License grant "... and only for purposes OTHER than personal/consumer entertainment." Bottom line for me... Until, Lockheed Martin changes their existing policy... I cannot justify the legal risk or the cost to pay another vendor (or ask my users to pay) for something we already have with the existing FSX. Albeit, missing the better FPS, Graphic capabilities, and Mission Editor which Prepar3D offers. |
| Dave Wave 23rd Nov 2013 09:54:07 | Read an Eula, you're kidding me lol.
I'd love Microsoft to take me to court and try to argue that they don't want me to have fun. It is not going to happen. Ever. |
| Dave Wave 23rd Nov 2013 10:42:45 | Just so you know Curley, I asked Lockheed Martin if they would mind me adding support for P3D in FSopen. They had no objections.
Here's a new interview I found. http://airdailyx.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/airdailyx-interview-with-wesley-l-bard.html 2 days to go :) |
| Gregor Michaj 23rd Nov 2013 18:58:27 | Curley Campbel-The licensing agreement DOES NOT allow us to use Preparer3D in the same manner as FSX.
Lockheed Martin - Prepar3D Forum davewave- It looks like version 2.0 of P3D will be a big enough upgrade that many student pilots will consider the cost worthwhile. For those of you who don' know, I run fsopen.co.uk, which supports online flight simulation. In particular I provide. List of online sessions ATC controller software As P3D is aimed at the student/pro pilot, I'm expecting that there would be a reasonable demand to fly with other pilots to practise radio phraseology. This is actually how I got involved with flight simulation in the first place. Would appreciate: 1. Feedback from existing users of P3D if you'd be interested in this ability. 2. If P3D would object to the listing of sessions on fsopen.co.uk. Dave Wave. FSopen.co.uk WBard Lockheed Martin Hi Dave, sounds very interesting, and sounds like a valuable learning resource as well. no objections from the team. Curley Campbel-The licensing agreement DOES NOT allow us to use Preparer3D in the same manner as FSX. IF, I wanted to host in the same manner in FSX... I simply click in the hosting MP LAN connection...... Prepar 3D Forum -Can we buy this product for Computer Simulation in Vatsim or Ivao -Learning can be fun As you fly in those multi-player environments using realistic air-traffic control and procedures. It can be said that you learn as you fly all the time The interpretation of the academic EULA is entirely your own responsibility. Therefore you can fly with P3D and enjoy as you learn in multi-player sessions or networks. (As long as you're improving your knowledge while your doing so) I hope that makes things clearer for you? Yes thanks ATC sure makes the learning exciting and every place you fly is a new learning experience 2 days to go :) |
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